What do you consider large or small?

Just as a sidenote:

In a different community they hosted a "cunt measuring" event with photo proof.
Methods to measure included for example tying a measuring tape to a dildo, pulling a condom over and inserting it as far as possible.

Result:
Most ladies were not even able to insert 15cm / 6 inches - #justsaing

Maybe there ought to be a similar event held within the Joyclub?

Well this one is easy. It just needs to be long enough to make your sub gag.

I must say.... I have a preference for larger penises.... best for me is +18cm. And I think the thing with attempting to measure vaginal depth is quite ambiguous. Sure in one position maybe 15cm is enough, but in my experience not in all positions!

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...I read somewhere that 15cm are considered as "standard" in Germany. So everything below or above
this size should be considered as "small" or "large"...

I wonder what the EU has to say about that

..the EU defines the bend of the dick, not its size, as with cucumbers...

I like medium/large which is not on your list but girth matters as much. That’s a preference for penetration otherwise I’d just prefer oral.

It’s strange to read that some also don’t understand that a woman’s vaginal opening changes based on how turned on or relaxed she is.

Girth over length always...more important for me

Measuring in inches or cm is so ambiguous - what I tell people to do is to take picture of thier erect cock and placed a can soda or remote control , if it’s bigger than those two , that’s large .

It depends on the user.

If you are in a newly committed relationship, it's either big or just right for her. irrespective of size.

If you've been married for a while, it's probably starting to look a little small?

If you're married, and with kids. It's definitely become smaller than before. Irrespective of whether it really has.

Point being, I'm according to the above replies, the German standard, but I've felt short in certain positions with women with big bum, 😄. At the same time, unbeknownst to me, what they really enjoyed was the thickness! They didn't really need me to be long 🤷

My honest thoughts are length and thickness does matter, also the combination how long you can keep it that size 😊 as long she’s enjoy it! I can keep it sharp on size. Otherwise for almost all men it becomes quickly a small shrimp 🫣

For me I'm 15cm long so I am satisfied with my side

...size is not too important, when you know how to use what you have. A smaller dick
can be more satisfying for the lady than a large dick, where the bearer has no skills what
to do with...

Well as a guy with an 18cm long cock with good girth I’d like to pitch in on this topic, I noticed that everyone is talking about what different sizes offer to women but have you women stopped to consider what his length means to him?

For example… I absolutely adore being deepthroated but being my size I have not found many women that can ENJOY doing it with ease …. A bigger cock for you may be more pleasurable but is being bigger more pleasurable for him? I’d love to hear all your thoughts on this
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Funny I was just thinking something similar although I don't have a particular affinity for being deepthroated either way, I'm probably just happy to be there. But sometimes she feels a little like she's come up short when she can't take it all the way, of course there's no need to feel that way. But it's more the thickness that's the issue there rather than the length. Perhaps there is some kind of corset I could put on him to make him skinnier, plus then there would be further understanding of the lengths women had to go through during all those corset wearing years.

I was thinking about this too, quite a lot, ever since a girlfriend left me because my cock wasn't big enough. That hurt, a lot, but then I realized it's not something to take personally. Cock size, just like all preferences, is just that, a preference. My wife has told me several times that large cocks are great for one or two nights but to have to deal with it every single time (because it takes work), is too much. Also, in many cases, larger cocks don't get quite as hard as smaller cocks and what turns her on, is the hardness.

So, the original poster was trying to understand what is considered "optimal" but I think it really depends on the person's taste, don't you?

Yes it was difficult. I was only 18, but to her credit she tried to be kind about it. She was just expressing what she needed. Who knows, maybe it was her way of suggesting an MMF???

Regarding a pounding, I totally understand what you mean and it's partly the reason I wanted to have an open marriage (so my wife could get the deep pounding she truly deserves but that I can't give her). We're not getting any younger and we've had a great marriage. Why ruin it now by denying her something I know she would enjoy?

Likewise, I have a bit of a labia fetish. Although her pussy rocks and mostly fulfills me, I too would enjoy some variety. Win win.

Again, size, for me, is a question of personal taste. HTH

I'm a 72 year old with a 6 inch penis. However when I'm very turned on my girth gets larger and my wife really notices the size. So I would say girth is a big factor as it stretches the vagina more and gives her more pleasure. On the other hand, when she is very aroused her vagina opens up more so there isn't the same tightness around my cock. But who's complaining it's very erotic to feel this happen

Size is not everything lol. I’m about 3-4 inches when I’m soft and 7-8 inches when I’m hard. It’s if you can use it that matters. Even better when used with tongue and fingers too 😉